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rich45
* nine of twelve equals a 3/4 while eight of twelve equals a 2/3 majority.
Any comments? If the group feels that a simple majority is sufficient, I will be glad to proceed.
Thank you again for your insights into the smooth running of the mighty GPL!
[Edited on 10-31-2014 by rich45]
[Edited on 10-31-2014 by rich45]
[Edited on 11-1-2014 by rich45]
The vote fallout (slight wording change)
October 31, 2014 at 03:10PM View BBCode
Ok...seven for change and six for the status quo. I tend not to want to adhere to a simple majority thus,at this point, the status quo remains. To give full disclosure: I voted to stay the same. To that end, a commissioner free vote would be 7-5 to change.** nine of twelve equals a 3/4 while eight of twelve equals a 2/3 majority.
Any comments? If the group feels that a simple majority is sufficient, I will be glad to proceed.
Thank you again for your insights into the smooth running of the mighty GPL!
[Edited on 10-31-2014 by rich45]
[Edited on 10-31-2014 by rich45]
[Edited on 11-1-2014 by rich45]
Buzzz
So it relieves any pressure to a team regarding 'tanking', correct? One can play all 'C' overall players if they so choose. Just so were all playing under the same premises.
October 31, 2014 at 08:49PM View BBCode
No change is good by me (even thou voted for the loss-penalty rule).So it relieves any pressure to a team regarding 'tanking', correct? One can play all 'C' overall players if they so choose. Just so were all playing under the same premises.
dtv
The rules that apply to all speed leagues don't allow that.
Owners in Speed leagues that use system 3 or 4 minor league improvements must either 1) Put their team in a position to win the most games or 2) Put their team in a position to best develop major league players. It is unacceptable to develop your team only in the minors and play an entire major league roster of scrubs. If you see a team in your league that does not meet these criteria, please post a private note in Support. We then may contact the owner in question for an explanation of why he is playing the players he is playing and come to a decision.
October 31, 2014 at 10:16PM View BBCode
'One can play all 'C' overall players if they so choose"The rules that apply to all speed leagues don't allow that.
Owners in Speed leagues that use system 3 or 4 minor league improvements must either 1) Put their team in a position to win the most games or 2) Put their team in a position to best develop major league players. It is unacceptable to develop your team only in the minors and play an entire major league roster of scrubs. If you see a team in your league that does not meet these criteria, please post a private note in Support. We then may contact the owner in question for an explanation of why he is playing the players he is playing and come to a decision.
YouOnion
I read this as maintaining the status quo, so owners will put forth the teams they see fit wittily feedback from other league members...
I suppose folks could complain to admin as suggested, but I don't really see the value in that, the tribe has spoken...
October 31, 2014 at 10:44PM View BBCode
I agree that the vote failed, no biggie, glad we were able to discuss the matter...I read this as maintaining the status quo, so owners will put forth the teams they see fit wittily feedback from other league members...
I suppose folks could complain to admin as suggested, but I don't really see the value in that, the tribe has spoken...
Buzzz
Support doesn't want to make decisions like that. Curious as to how long ago that was written?
Didn't Support create a board of veteran owners to look at disputed trades? If thats still active maybe than can look into the 1) and 2)'s of Tanking and make rulings?
'Tanking' has been around almost since SymDyn started and there hasn't been a solution found yet. 'Loss-Penalty' is probably the closest thing to a solution but didnt have enough owner votes to move forward. As someone said we need to "establish a solid bottom". which would enable a 'tanking rulings' to be made and also enable everyone to play under the same premises. Maybe just making 'tanking' legal would establish that bottom (thou it would be rock-bottom).
Available options:
1) Loss Penalty (not enough votes to implement)
2) Use 'Support' to make the Tanking calls (Don't think they will do it)
3) Use the 'Trade Dispute Board' to make Tanking rulings
3) Make 'Tanking' legal (Actually state it in the rules)
4) [any other suggestion?]
October 31, 2014 at 10:54PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dtv
'One can play all 'C' overall players if they so choose"
The rules that apply to all speed leagues don't allow that.
Owners in Speed leagues that use system 3 or 4 minor league improvements must either 1) Put their team in a position to win the most games or 2) Put their team in a position to best develop major league players. It is unacceptable to develop your team only in the minors and play an entire major league roster of scrubs. If you see a team in your league that does not meet these criteria, please post a private note in Support. We then may contact the owner in question for an explanation of why he is playing the players he is playing and come to a decision.
Support doesn't want to make decisions like that. Curious as to how long ago that was written?
Didn't Support create a board of veteran owners to look at disputed trades? If thats still active maybe than can look into the 1) and 2)'s of Tanking and make rulings?
'Tanking' has been around almost since SymDyn started and there hasn't been a solution found yet. 'Loss-Penalty' is probably the closest thing to a solution but didnt have enough owner votes to move forward. As someone said we need to "establish a solid bottom". which would enable a 'tanking rulings' to be made and also enable everyone to play under the same premises. Maybe just making 'tanking' legal would establish that bottom (thou it would be rock-bottom).
Available options:
1) Loss Penalty (not enough votes to implement)
2) Use 'Support' to make the Tanking calls (Don't think they will do it)
3) Use the 'Trade Dispute Board' to make Tanking rulings
3) Make 'Tanking' legal (Actually state it in the rules)
4) [any other suggestion?]
ryang
October 31, 2014 at 11:46PM View BBCode
All I am going to do in the future is make it not so obvious. Its like the whole pinetar Pineda incident it seems like...nobody cares if you use pine tar, just don't make it blatant. Nobody cares if you lose 130 games, just do it with B+ players instead of C players...
nuzzy62
November 01, 2014 at 12:51AM View BBCode
The flip side to that is that many teams end up trying to bottom feed, guys at the top can extend their run longer.
nuzzy62
On the bright side, those at the top are going to put up some big win numbers :spin:
November 01, 2014 at 01:09PM View BBCode
The race is on, if you're going to tank, you'd better go all out because the race is now on to have the worst team.On the bright side, those at the top are going to put up some big win numbers :spin:
rich45
November 01, 2014 at 02:09PM View BBCode
I feel like the situation can be self policing. I know, Mr. Sunshine and lollipops. Folks, should we put in the '62 Mets rule. Simply put a penalty for over 120 loses? This represents the futility Mendoza line if you will.
Buzzz
Thats what am saying, if your going to tank you might as well go 100%. So lets state in the rules 'Tanking is Legal'. That way everyone is playing under the same rule.
I'd support that (instead of making Tanking legal)
November 01, 2014 at 03:07PM View BBCode
Originally posted by nuzzy62
The race is on, if you're going to tank, you'd better go all out because the race is now on to have the worst team.
Thats what am saying, if your going to tank you might as well go 100%. So lets state in the rules 'Tanking is Legal'. That way everyone is playing under the same rule.
Originally posted by rich45
Simply put a penalty for over 120 loses?
I'd support that (instead of making Tanking legal)
dtv
November 01, 2014 at 06:17PM View BBCode
To make tanking legal you need an affirmative vote to overrule the default rule that prohibits it.Pages: 1