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Bills4593
Tom Brady- aka Mr. Screens...extremely over rated...cant throw anthing over 10 yards...as u can see from the bills game...hes not good
Chris Chambers- top WR for the phins...had a decent to average rookie season last year did not have great season for a top WR at all 52 catches 725 3 td's for the top WR...and yet everyone loves him....and yes i saw the phins texans game...he played good with a sick catch but still on a texans D
Kurt Warner- what else do i have to say?....he had an awful season last year at best...and yesterdays 6 fumbles doesnt help along with some inaccurate passes....complete 34-54 passes....advice too martz give faulk the ball (he had 9 carries)
AND THE NUMBER ONE MOST OVERRATED PLAYER IS:
EDDIE GEORGE- Lucky for him last season he was "the healthiest hes ever been" and this season he is again "the healthiest hes ever been"....this dude has his time in the spot light about 3 years ago when he produced...although he did get to 1100 yards but struggling with 3.4 yards a carry lowest among any 1000 yards rusher....and he had 3 most carries last season....and last night against the raiders he averaged in the 2.5 yards a carry range....and in 2001 an astonishing 900 yards with 3.0 yards per carry and had the 5th most carries....bottom line this guy sucks no much better than Antwain Smith and look george is getting paid...he would be a good backup!
there u go if u want to read all that
NFLS TOP 5 MOST OVERRATED PLAYERS
September 08, 2003 at 07:56PM View BBCode
Jerry Porter-last year...51 catches a bit over 600...9 TD's...not bad for a pass happy offensive team and when tim brown and rice are covered....come on match me up against there 3rd or 4th corner i can do that!Tom Brady- aka Mr. Screens...extremely over rated...cant throw anthing over 10 yards...as u can see from the bills game...hes not good
Chris Chambers- top WR for the phins...had a decent to average rookie season last year did not have great season for a top WR at all 52 catches 725 3 td's for the top WR...and yet everyone loves him....and yes i saw the phins texans game...he played good with a sick catch but still on a texans D
Kurt Warner- what else do i have to say?....he had an awful season last year at best...and yesterdays 6 fumbles doesnt help along with some inaccurate passes....complete 34-54 passes....advice too martz give faulk the ball (he had 9 carries)
AND THE NUMBER ONE MOST OVERRATED PLAYER IS:
EDDIE GEORGE- Lucky for him last season he was "the healthiest hes ever been" and this season he is again "the healthiest hes ever been"....this dude has his time in the spot light about 3 years ago when he produced...although he did get to 1100 yards but struggling with 3.4 yards a carry lowest among any 1000 yards rusher....and he had 3 most carries last season....and last night against the raiders he averaged in the 2.5 yards a carry range....and in 2001 an astonishing 900 yards with 3.0 yards per carry and had the 5th most carries....bottom line this guy sucks no much better than Antwain Smith and look george is getting paid...he would be a good backup!
there u go if u want to read all that
Bills4593
September 08, 2003 at 07:58PM View BBCode
o sorry for jerry porter i meant to say when tim brown and rice are DOBULE COVERED which leaves him open all the time.....when they retire dont expect much from him
Schef33
September 08, 2003 at 08:54PM View BBCode
I actually agree with you on all 5 of those players.
ME
Tom Brady: What you said
David Boston: One really good year, lots of physical talent but too many off the field issues (DRUGS).
Keyshawn Johnson: Doesn't score many TDs, or get lots of yards/receptions, though he is a good WR he is not one of the top 5 and probably not even top 10 like many think he is. He just has a big mouth so he gets lots of media attention.
Mike Alstott: A situational short-yardage back (though he's one of the best short-yardage guys), but that's all he is. i have seen people wear alstott jerseys so they must think he is good.
probably Jerry Porter too for the reasons you said.
September 08, 2003 at 08:57PM View BBCode
I would not agree with chambers being overrated. he is an OK receiver but i havn't heard anyone (including other dolphins fans) say he is great. i would not Warner, who has has 1 bad year and 1 bad game after 2MVPs. It would be guys who are overrated now even though they are playing to their potential. Not sure abotu George, he doesnt get many YPG but he gets them consistantly on the ground as a power back, and thats what the Titans need.Tom Brady: What you said
David Boston: One really good year, lots of physical talent but too many off the field issues (DRUGS).
Keyshawn Johnson: Doesn't score many TDs, or get lots of yards/receptions, though he is a good WR he is not one of the top 5 and probably not even top 10 like many think he is. He just has a big mouth so he gets lots of media attention.
Mike Alstott: A situational short-yardage back (though he's one of the best short-yardage guys), but that's all he is. i have seen people wear alstott jerseys so they must think he is good.
probably Jerry Porter too for the reasons you said.
FuriousGiorge
September 08, 2003 at 09:27PM View BBCode
Alstott in my opinion is the number one guy. If he was black, would he get one quarter of the coverage and fan support that he gets now? Short-yardage, large build fullbacks are about the easiest thing in the world to find, and most don't get near the money or press coverage that Mr. Alstott does.
Bills4593
September 08, 2003 at 09:46PM View BBCode
i was debating between keyshawn jerry porter and chris chambers....and for chris chambers...everytime they show a dolphins games highlight they always seem to talk about how good chris chambers is....he always in magazines as being a breakout player...especially JERRY PORTER
skierdude44
September 08, 2003 at 10:27PM View BBCode
yea ur rite jerry porter is putting up average numbers and those r padded bcuz he has two hall of famers at wide reciever who are always double covered and he is covered by a nickel or dimeback. gimme a break.
1tim412
I think one player that should be on there that isn't, is Jake Plummer. He's downright horrible, but all the sports guys are hailing him as the Broncos' savior. He has 117 int. career, and only 90 TDs. That isn't even close to savior status, or for that matter, even average.
September 08, 2003 at 10:41PM View BBCode
Porter's putting up those average numbers because of playing on the same field as two Hall of Famers. They don't throw it to him enough. Brown got 900+ and rice got 1,200+. There's just not enough ball to go around when you've got guys with numbers like that. And then there's Garner with 800+ yds. There are many Raider fans who say they need to cut back on throwing the ball to Brown and Rice, and throw more to Porter. The problem is that he doesn't get enough chances with all the targets that Gannon has in his offense.I think one player that should be on there that isn't, is Jake Plummer. He's downright horrible, but all the sports guys are hailing him as the Broncos' savior. He has 117 int. career, and only 90 TDs. That isn't even close to savior status, or for that matter, even average.
FuriousGiorge
September 08, 2003 at 10:55PM View BBCode
I'm pretty sure no one but Mike Shanahan actually thinks Jake Plummer is good.
ME
September 09, 2003 at 04:49PM View BBCode
mike alstott makes it to the pro bowl every year even though he's not a real fullback.
Bills4593
September 10, 2003 at 07:18PM View BBCode
well then they have 3 good RB's....and still not 1 of them got over 1000 yards
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September 11, 2003 at 01:41AM View BBCode
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Unclescam777
2. Tom Brady. Cant throw downfield, nuff said.
3. Michael Vick. I'm gonna take alot of heat for this one but I think he is VERY overrated. He only does so well because teams are constantly looking for him to run and aren't playing good enough D because of it. We'll see his true colors now thanks to that leg injury.
4. Mr. Big mouth over in Tampa Bay. You know who I'm talking aboutnot Warren Sapp). He's a good reciever but he aint great. His only strong suit is the fact that he will run inside and actually hold on to the ball, but he lacks TD's for a reason...he can't make a play when he's tightly covered.
5. Anyone who plays for Green Bay other than Farve(and possibly a few exceptions).
And I have to say that Jake Plummer has the ability to be a great QB. I mean, if you watch him play he is very good. His problem is too many damn interceptions. I don't know if he tries to force the ball or just can't read coverage well but he makes rookie mistakes, despite being a veteran. I think he has a good home in Denver since he finally has a good coach. Still, don't expect much from him....ever.
September 11, 2003 at 04:13AM View BBCode
1. Kurt Warner. It's easy to be a good QB when you have a good offense. Remember the 99(?) Vikings where they went 15-1 with Randell Cunningham as their QB? He had Moss, Carter, and Reed(when he was good), as well as a top running back in Robert Smith. Warner had Holt, Bruce, and of course Marshall Faulk. Stick him on a normal team and he'll be average at best.2. Tom Brady. Cant throw downfield, nuff said.
3. Michael Vick. I'm gonna take alot of heat for this one but I think he is VERY overrated. He only does so well because teams are constantly looking for him to run and aren't playing good enough D because of it. We'll see his true colors now thanks to that leg injury.
4. Mr. Big mouth over in Tampa Bay. You know who I'm talking aboutnot Warren Sapp). He's a good reciever but he aint great. His only strong suit is the fact that he will run inside and actually hold on to the ball, but he lacks TD's for a reason...he can't make a play when he's tightly covered.
5. Anyone who plays for Green Bay other than Farve(and possibly a few exceptions).
And I have to say that Jake Plummer has the ability to be a great QB. I mean, if you watch him play he is very good. His problem is too many damn interceptions. I don't know if he tries to force the ball or just can't read coverage well but he makes rookie mistakes, despite being a veteran. I think he has a good home in Denver since he finally has a good coach. Still, don't expect much from him....ever.
Bills4593
September 11, 2003 at 07:24PM View BBCode
thats what makes mike vick so good...he can beat u in so many ways
Unclescam777
A defense with a great secondary could also blitz from one side and know that he can only run the other way, then the LB's could just watch that direction while the CB's and safeties take care of the recievers. Not only is he overrated but one of these day's he is going to get his head ripped off. I think any QB who runs like he does is just asking for trouble.
September 12, 2003 at 01:42AM View BBCode
nooooo, Vick can beat you in only 2 ways...and running the ball like he does just wouldn't fly against a fast D.A defense with a great secondary could also blitz from one side and know that he can only run the other way, then the LB's could just watch that direction while the CB's and safeties take care of the recievers. Not only is he overrated but one of these day's he is going to get his head ripped off. I think any QB who runs like he does is just asking for trouble.
Schef33
September 12, 2003 at 03:31AM View BBCode
I am a Vick fan and while I disagree with you about him being a great player I do think he is a target. The other teams defense are just looking for excuses to knock him out of the game.
knoxville
September 12, 2003 at 01:57PM View BBCode
i disagree on mike alstott being the most overrated. and i dont think him being white has anything to do with him having support of fans. what other fullback posts the numbers he does? i'm not saying he's the best ever, but i dont think he is anywhere near the top 5 of overrated.
ME
September 12, 2003 at 02:57PM View BBCode
he's not a real fullback, real fullbacks are in for blocking and limited pass-catching. he's really a halfback and they put him in at fullback some. he's nothing more than a short yardage guy.
happy
September 12, 2003 at 05:21PM View BBCode
saying vick is a bad QB because he can run is dumb. he can run, which forces a QB spy, which allows him to have more time to throw, that makes him good, not bad. Saying he is bad because he wont be as good with a leg injury is dumb too thats like saying "he sucks, because with a leg injury he isnt as good' Donnovan McNabb didnt run except for i think once during the entire TB game, and so he sucked. In the second half they stopped QB spying him, and he should have taken off running every time to force them to give him more time. Vick has the advantage of being a double threat QB when many QBs arent. Vicks throwing abilities are overrated, but not his abilities in general
Bills4593
September 12, 2003 at 08:00PM View BBCode
look at any other QB lets say Kurt Warner...hes no mike vick....all teams do is blitz and sit in the cover 2 on him...on the other hand when u play vick u have to change your whole gameplan....he can throw on the run....im not a vick fanatic but saying hes not a good QB is ridculous
happy
September 12, 2003 at 08:06PM View BBCode
there you go. a different breed of QBs, Vick, and McNabb, and not just any fast QB can do it, because Kordell stewart was pretty fast, and he sucked
Meathead44
Michael Vick is a great athletic talent. He is an average passer who is helped considerably by the fact that he is an excellent runner. I am suspect about his chances of becoming a true star in the league though. There have been very few QB's of his style that have succeeded in the league for any duration of time. Tarkenton, Young and Cunningham come to mind. All of those guys were better passers than Vick is now. He will need to hone his passing skills if he is to be a lasting superstar.
Last thing, what a fullback does depends entirely upon his ability and the offense he's in. The number of Fullbacks that come to mind that had great offensive seasons and careers is shattering. Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, John Riggins, Mike Pruitt, Kevin Mack, Sam Cunningham, and on and on. All those guys gained over 1,000 yards rushing from the fullback position. And I'd hardly call what Larry Centers and Roger Craig and others did out of the backfield "limited pass-catching".
September 12, 2003 at 08:28PM View BBCode
Alstott is not a halfback playing fullback. Alstott is an excellent blocking back. His less than stellar rushing numbers are more a product of how he is used than a product of his talent. If you watch closely, when they make him a bigger part of the offense and give him carries other than on 3rd and 1, he actually puts up decent numbers. Granted he is no Walter Payton, but he is still an average running back carrying the ball.Michael Vick is a great athletic talent. He is an average passer who is helped considerably by the fact that he is an excellent runner. I am suspect about his chances of becoming a true star in the league though. There have been very few QB's of his style that have succeeded in the league for any duration of time. Tarkenton, Young and Cunningham come to mind. All of those guys were better passers than Vick is now. He will need to hone his passing skills if he is to be a lasting superstar.
Last thing, what a fullback does depends entirely upon his ability and the offense he's in. The number of Fullbacks that come to mind that had great offensive seasons and careers is shattering. Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, John Riggins, Mike Pruitt, Kevin Mack, Sam Cunningham, and on and on. All those guys gained over 1,000 yards rushing from the fullback position. And I'd hardly call what Larry Centers and Roger Craig and others did out of the backfield "limited pass-catching".