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barterer2002
April 25, 2009 at 10:16PM View BBCode
Wonder how many times the Browns will trade down before they actually pick
thatrogue
April 25, 2009 at 10:36PM View BBCode
Boom or bust pick. Harvin and Peterson on the same team could be ridiculously explosive. But, if he doesn't clean up the drug use, the Vikes will long regret the choice.
barterer2002
April 25, 2009 at 10:48PM View BBCode
Well Davis gives me 6 exact which is better than the 5 I did last year.
skierdude44
People said the same about Flacco last year but he turned out pretty good (so far)... Granted, I do see your point about it being a reach.
April 25, 2009 at 10:48PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
See Craig this is what I mean about QBs. He's the next best QB but about the 50th rated player on the boards and they draft him 17th.
People said the same about Flacco last year but he turned out pretty good (so far)... Granted, I do see your point about it being a reach.
FuriousGiorge
Well sure, if your point is that bad teams have a tendency to reach for QB's at the very top of the draft who don't belong there, then I'm sure that's true. But then you also pointed out the stupid Bucs picking Freeman at #17, well down in the 1st round. Where did the Steelers pick Roethlisberger? Do you regret that one? The point I'm trying to make is that you've made some blanket statements about the wisdom of picking QB's with top picks, and I think it's not as simple as you've kind of suggested.
April 25, 2009 at 10:51PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
I'm not saying that nobody should ever pick a QB, I'm saying that there is no way that QBs should go number one year after year after year. They get upgraded well above their talent level simply because of position. This is why there are so many QB busts.
Well sure, if your point is that bad teams have a tendency to reach for QB's at the very top of the draft who don't belong there, then I'm sure that's true. But then you also pointed out the stupid Bucs picking Freeman at #17, well down in the 1st round. Where did the Steelers pick Roethlisberger? Do you regret that one? The point I'm trying to make is that you've made some blanket statements about the wisdom of picking QB's with top picks, and I think it's not as simple as you've kind of suggested.
barterer2002
April 25, 2009 at 10:53PM View BBCode
People always want to point to Ryan and Flacco as great successes for taking QBs early. The problem is that Ryan and Flacco were both in college for 4-5 years and garnered a lot of experience. None of the three guys this year are graduating. Freeman and Sanchez are Jrs and of course Stafford is a sophmore. It is more of a reach to grab these underclassmen than it is to grab graduating seniors.
barterer2002
April 25, 2009 at 10:57PM View BBCode
Craig, its what we do here. I make blanket statements, you tell me I'm totally wrong and its usually somewhere in the middle.
whiskybear
April 25, 2009 at 11:18PM View BBCode
So Bryan, looking a few picks ahead, can the Seahawks land a good OT in the second round? Do you know anything about these Eben Britton and William Beatty characters?
barterer2002
April 25, 2009 at 11:21PM View BBCode
I think Britton would be a great pick for the Seahawks. I thought the Vikings would scoop him up. He's not going to do what those guys in the top ten did of course but he should be solid. He won't be as good as Jones was for you but should be consistent.
whiskybear
April 25, 2009 at 11:23PM View BBCode
I'll take consistent. We need a right tackle, too, really.
whiskybear
The 37th pick for a 2010 first? Ha.
April 25, 2009 at 11:53PM View BBCode
Originally posted by thatrogue
The real truth is that Josh McDaniels went to Denver to sabotage the team. Fail.
The 37th pick for a 2010 first? Ha.
whiskybear
[Edited on 4-25-2009 by whiskybear]
April 25, 2009 at 11:58PM View BBCode
I mean, who is Denver's QB? Kyle Orton? What are they going to finish, 6-10? 7-9? This is better than Christmas and Jew Christmas put together![Edited on 4-25-2009 by whiskybear]
thatrogue
ETA: This is like some horrible dream, where you realize it is so crazy it must be a dream...but just can't wake up.
[Edited on 4-26-2009 by thatrogue]
April 25, 2009 at 11:58PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybearAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! :mad:
Originally posted by thatrogue
The real truth is that Josh McDaniels went to Denver to sabotage the team. Fail.
The 37th pick for a 2010 first? Ha.
ETA: This is like some horrible dream, where you realize it is so crazy it must be a dream...but just can't wake up.
[Edited on 4-26-2009 by thatrogue]
whiskybear
April 25, 2009 at 11:59PM View BBCode
(My sincere condolences, Daren ... but, I mean, what the censored are they thinking?)
FuriousGiorge
April 26, 2009 at 12:05AM View BBCode
Jew Christmas isn't really adding anything to that equation. That's like saying, "This is better than a delicious hot fudge sundae sitting on top of a brownie, with a glass of water on the side."
thatrogue
McDaniels, like his previous boss, must think that having early first round picks is not a good thing (I can't see them being better than a mid-pack team next year...but I can see them being quite a bit worse). For now, all I can do is shake my head.
April 26, 2009 at 12:06AM View BBCode
Tyler, I've been asking that since January. 2009 is a disaster for Denver. Almost everything they've done appears to be a horrible mistake.McDaniels, like his previous boss, must think that having early first round picks is not a good thing (I can't see them being better than a mid-pack team next year...but I can see them being quite a bit worse). For now, all I can do is shake my head.
whiskybear
April 26, 2009 at 12:09AM View BBCode
The Cutler saga was just bizarre, but, hey, they got some decent value out of him. This just seems reckless. If McDaniels really thinks he has a playoff team on his hands, fine, but there's more than a little risk that pick will fall somewhere in the teens ... or better.
FuriousGiorge
April 26, 2009 at 12:24AM View BBCode
For his next trick, Josh McDaniels will take a life-sized picture of John Elway to the 50-yard line of Invesco Field and get a camera crew to document him taking a censored on it.
whiskybear
April 26, 2009 at 01:00AM View BBCode
I don't know why I'm still watching draft coverage (I suppose it's because the Heat-Hawks game is a blowout and the M's and Ducks-Sharks are not on yet), but ... Dallas takes a pass. Lolz.
Benne
April 26, 2009 at 02:04AM View BBCode
Holy censored , what an awesome day for Seattle. Curry is a meast who easily replaces Peterson. Unger can play either C or OG, giving us the type of versatility we need in Mora's new zone-blocking system. Oh, and we robbed Denver of their 2010 first. Bravo, Ruskell.
Hamilton2
April 26, 2009 at 02:52AM View BBCode
I don't think that Moreno will be a complete disaster this season. There is enough of a remnant of Shanahan's zone blocking techniques left on the O-Line that he will get 1200+ yards and 10+ TD's this year.
Benne
April 26, 2009 at 06:40AM View BBCode
What is it with former Bellichik disciples (Crennell, Weiss, Mangini, now McDaniels) turning into complete retards after leaving New England?