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happy
Whatever. im tired of talking football with you pedestrians.
January 06, 2009 at 07:41PM View formatted
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"strength of schedule is hard to implement into a metric."
Whatever. im tired of talking football with you pedestrians.
dirtdevil
January 06, 2009 at 07:44PM View BBCode
ah yes, whenever the veracity of your argument is challenged, declare victory and insult the intelligence of the opposition. classic tactics. too transparent to be really effective, but classic nonetheless.
tm4559
you first said it was not a metric, but a conecpt.
"strength of schedule is not a metric, it is a concept.
the you said it was a metric
"the fact that strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement "
the part there where it says "strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement." you are saying it is a metric. if you want to say something else, say it.
also, who appointed you Lord God of football analysis? seriously. how do you know so much that others don't?
January 06, 2009 at 07:46PM View BBCode
haps, i just asked a simple question. no criticism.you first said it was not a metric, but a conecpt.
"strength of schedule is not a metric, it is a concept.
the you said it was a metric
"the fact that strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement "
the part there where it says "strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement." you are saying it is a metric. if you want to say something else, say it.
also, who appointed you Lord God of football analysis? seriously. how do you know so much that others don't?
Benne
In other words, happy represents everything wrong with the Internet.
January 06, 2009 at 07:47PM View BBCode
Isn't it obvious? Happy doesn't watch football. In fact, he probably doesn't even like football really. One thing he does love, however, is winning an argument. So he reads Football Outsiders on a daily basis, absorb their crappy BP-lite stats as if it's gospel, then goes on to disseminate his superior knowledge of DYAR and SoS to us mere mortals, and shames us when we reject his points.In other words, happy represents everything wrong with the Internet.
happy
Dirtdevil, i never even really responded to what you said. so here, this is for you.
Strength of schedule isnt my sole basis for saying the dolphins arent good. In fact, i never said the dolphins were bad, i said the ravens were much better.
The phins had homefield advantage. they had equally as many wins. So i gave ONE of the reasons why the dolphins may not be as good as they appear on paper. The phins are not an 11-5 team. they are probably as good or better than the other AFC East teams, and they probably deserved to make the playoffs. The ravens on the other hand are an elite team. We may well see them in the superbowl this year. A ravens victory was not particularly surprising to say the least.
January 06, 2009 at 07:50PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
as silly as basing an evaluation of the poor quality of a team (say miami) almost solely on it?
Dirtdevil, i never even really responded to what you said. so here, this is for you.
Strength of schedule isnt my sole basis for saying the dolphins arent good. In fact, i never said the dolphins were bad, i said the ravens were much better.
The phins had homefield advantage. they had equally as many wins. So i gave ONE of the reasons why the dolphins may not be as good as they appear on paper. The phins are not an 11-5 team. they are probably as good or better than the other AFC East teams, and they probably deserved to make the playoffs. The ravens on the other hand are an elite team. We may well see them in the superbowl this year. A ravens victory was not particularly surprising to say the least.
Jughead
January 06, 2009 at 07:51PM View BBCode
Pirates like DYAR. Maybe he doesn't know much, but apparently he at least knew enough not to pick Miami Sunday. Can you believe IHOP charges $12 for ham and eggs? Those pancakes must be made with butter from a Hindu cow's firstborn.
Jughead
January 06, 2009 at 07:51PM View BBCode
(Assuming the cow's kid was a daughter and then was old enough to create milk, of course. I know where milk comes from. The store.)
dirtdevil
fixed.
yes. sometimes we forget and think he's actually looking for a rational discussion of viewpoints. it's all our fault, really.
January 06, 2009 at 07:52PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Benne
Isn't it obvious? Happy doesn't watch football. In fact, he probably doesn't even like football really. One thing he does love, however, is thinking he's winning an argument.
fixed.
In other words, happy represents everything wrong with the Internet.
yes. sometimes we forget and think he's actually looking for a rational discussion of viewpoints. it's all our fault, really.
FuriousGiorge
January 06, 2009 at 07:54PM View BBCode
Uh oh, someone's sent up the Butter Signal (don't worry, I think Mike is dead).
Benne
People actually eat at IHOP?
January 06, 2009 at 07:55PM View BBCode
Can you believe IHOP charges $12 for ham and eggs? Those pancakes must be made with butter from a Hindu cow's firstborn.
People actually eat at IHOP?
tm4559
the dolphins, in fact, are not very good. one had only to watch them play, at any point in the season, to know this.
the ravens still have a quite decent defense. and a team with a decent defense can win, especially against a team like miami. which is not very good.
January 06, 2009 at 07:56PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
Strength of schedule isnt my sole basis for saying the dolphins arent good. In fact, i never said the dolphins were bad, i said the ravens were much better.
the dolphins, in fact, are not very good. one had only to watch them play, at any point in the season, to know this.
the ravens still have a quite decent defense. and a team with a decent defense can win, especially against a team like miami. which is not very good.
Jughead
January 06, 2009 at 07:58PM View BBCode
Is the concept of the rookie quarterback being at a disadvantage because he is playing his first playoff game (and on the road at that) overblown?
dirtdevil
looks like almost solely based on sos to me.
January 06, 2009 at 08:02PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
as silly as basing an evaluation of the poor quality of a team (say miami) almost solely on it?
Originally posted by happy
Dirtdevil, i never even really responded to what you said. so here, this is for you.
Strength of schedule isnt my sole basis for saying the dolphins arent good.
Originally posted by Jughead
How did the Dolphins make the playoffs?
Originally posted by happy
obnoxiously easy schedule (as in, one of the easiest in the history of the NFL) coupled with high luck in close games.
looks like almost solely based on sos to me.
happy
it was bad grammar. im known for that. oh well.
its not that i think i know a lot about football, but really, strength of schedule doesnt matter? Favre top 5 QB? Eagles wont be good this year? Jesus people. Do *I* watch football? I have been to 22 games in the past 3 years. how about you guys?
January 06, 2009 at 08:02PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tm4559
haps, i just asked a simple question. no criticism.
you first said it was not a metric, but a conecpt.
"strength of schedule is not a metric, it is a concept.
the you said it was a metric
"the fact that strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement "
the part there where it says "strength of schedule is a hard metric to implement." you are saying it is a metric. if you want to say something else, say it.
it was bad grammar. im known for that. oh well.
Originally posted by tm4559
also, who appointed you Lord God of football analysis? seriously. how do you know so much that others don't?
its not that i think i know a lot about football, but really, strength of schedule doesnt matter? Favre top 5 QB? Eagles wont be good this year? Jesus people. Do *I* watch football? I have been to 22 games in the past 3 years. how about you guys?
dirtdevil
i don't think so. baltimore didn't win because flacco played great. they won (as per usual) because the defence played great. i think it's fair to say that flacco has to do a lot less in order to win than does, say, ryan. the respective results probably in part reflect that.
January 06, 2009 at 08:05PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Jughead
Is the concept of the rookie quarterback being at a disadvantage because he is playing his first playoff game (and on the road at that) overblown?
i don't think so. baltimore didn't win because flacco played great. they won (as per usual) because the defence played great. i think it's fair to say that flacco has to do a lot less in order to win than does, say, ryan. the respective results probably in part reflect that.
sycophantman
I've been to zero games, personally, in my life. Of course, one could argue that the wonder of the television and the ever present ESPN machine might help me stay at least within shouting distance of your insights.
Besides that...
Why is it always about Craig with you...? He feels pain, just like us humans...
January 06, 2009 at 08:08PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
Do *I* watch football? I have been to 22 games in the past 3 years. how about you guys?
I've been to zero games, personally, in my life. Of course, one could argue that the wonder of the television and the ever present ESPN machine might help me stay at least within shouting distance of your insights.
Besides that...
Originally posted by happy
Jesus people.
Why is it always about Craig with you...? He feels pain, just like us humans...
Benne
Also, the games? Not cheap. Not all of us have enough disposable income flowing out our ass that we can afford 22 games in 3 years.
January 06, 2009 at 08:11PM View BBCode
I've been to zero games, personally, in my life. Of course, one could argue that the wonder of the television and the ever present ESPN machine might help me stay at least within shouting distance of your insights.
Also, the games? Not cheap. Not all of us have enough disposable income flowing out our ass that we can afford 22 games in 3 years.
sycophantman
January 06, 2009 at 08:14PM View BBCode
Tears? Pfft, lets not go all uncanny valley, Craig...
dirtdevil
yes, you're 1 for 3. are you really sure that merits a "jesus people"? gary kubiak doesn't claim success on such slim merit.
January 06, 2009 at 08:19PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
its not that i think i know a lot about football, but really, strength of schedule doesnt matter? Favre top 5 QB? Eagles wont be good this year? Jesus people.
yes, you're 1 for 3. are you really sure that merits a "jesus people"? gary kubiak doesn't claim success on such slim merit.
tm4559
and you see it there so much better than on television?
i mean, i like football, i even played football for three seasons. i went to a ton of football games, jr. high, high school, college, what have you (i have never been to a pro game). but i don't think i got any special insight from being there.
January 06, 2009 at 08:19PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
I have been to 22 games in the past 3 years. how about you guys?
and you see it there so much better than on television?
i mean, i like football, i even played football for three seasons. i went to a ton of football games, jr. high, high school, college, what have you (i have never been to a pro game). but i don't think i got any special insight from being there.
happy
January 06, 2009 at 08:26PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Benne
Isn't it obvious? Happy doesn't watch football. In fact, he probably doesn't even like football really
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